Let the women keep silent?

Why did the Spirit command women to keep silent in the churches?


For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be ONE FLESH: so then they are NO MORE TWAIN, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. —Mark 10:7-9 KJV

And Adam knew [intimate experiential knowledge] Eve his wife. —Genesis 4:1 KJV

The marriage bond is a created by God to be complete, self contained, whole, single organism, with God-supplied nourishment channeled through the husband (the head) from God.

I use the analogy of a virus’s destructive effect on human DNA because this is the effect the advice of the serpent had on the first family

When a wife seeks and receives instruction by another man, it mirrors the Serpent getting Eve alone and dividing her union with her husband by deception. Therefore the Bible’s instruction for the wife to not inquire for herself instruction from another man in the church is based upon the deception of the first woman by Satan. The text notes that she was tricked, but her husband (Adam) had a resistance to deception.

“But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works. Let the woman learn in silence [without questioning the male teacher] with all subjection [to her husband]. But I suffer [permit] not a woman to teach [instruct], nor to usurp authority [have dominion over, dominate, govern] over the man, but to be in silence [she is not the designated teacher in the church.]. For [because] Adam was first formed, then Eve [1st. reason: creation order, first in rank].  And Adam was not deceived [2nd. Reason: resistance to deception], but the woman being deceived was in the transgression [3rd reason: susceptibility to deception]. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. —1 Timothy 2:10-15 KJV

“Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience [to God’s command, and husband. “Wives obey your husband…”], as also saith the law [O.T.]. And if they will learn anything [be taught, instructed, guided], let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak [ask for guidance] in the church [from male teachers]. —1 Corinthians 14:33-35 KJV

The “Shame” is upon the husband, the wife inviting a third party into the marriage, and on the public division of that household’s union and structure.

How would a husband react knowing that another man is teaching and instructing his wife? How would a wife react knowing that another woman is depending on her husband for leadership and guidance? How should a single woman feel who is depending on a married man for guidance, instruction? We will discuss single women shortly.

The greatest example of this shame and sin is what the serpent did in the garden when he caught Eve alone and gave her corrupt advice; She took it and also caused her husband to transgress. We are told in the passage in 1 Tim. that Adam was not deceived but she was. Like a virus Satan corrupted her good, healthy family unit. Another warning is given in: Ti 3:6,7  For of this sort [corrupt teachers] are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.


Jdg 4:8,9  And Barak said unto her, If thou wilt go with me, then I will go: but if thou wilt not go with me, then I will not go. And she said, I will surely go with thee: notwithstanding the journey that thou takest shall not be for thine honour; for the LORD shall sell Sisera into the hand of a woman. And Deborah arose, and went with Barak to Kedesh.

The above passage confirms the fact that selected men were to lead Israel and the request of Barak would bring shame on himself by subjugating himself to a woman. The story of Deborah was included to demonstrate the sad condition of male leadership in Israel during that time of failure.  The book of judges is a history of sinful failures.


The “Woman thou art loosed”, and “Think like a Man” programs are not Biblical, they are based on worldly philosophy. No married man should be “loosing” any woman but his wife. Women should think like a woman makes sense right? We’re not confused about gender identity in the Bible.

If anyone doubts the weakness and susceptibility of women in general to this sin, just remember the Playboy Enterprise based wholly on millions of women readily submitting to an authoritative man for exploitation. To this you can add, the so-called adult bars and clubs, the prostitution and call girl industry around the world where women are voluntarily taken captive by the millions by corrupt men they submit to for guidance. There must be no such unlawful submission in the church. Many of the gentile women during the time of the early church also served as prostitutes in the pagan temples, being obviously exploited by the male leaders of those religions, 1Cor. 6:9-11. Paul was writing to Gentile converts.

The believers are protected by truth against this prevailing sin among mankind. The family unit is sacred to God, because it is patterned after Christ and his bride the church (Eph 5:22-33). God gifts, equips, and expects husband’s to lead their households. With his command God gives the means: “it is God who works in is to will and do if his good pleasure.” —Phil. 2:13


Single women should not be led or guided by a married man!

“The aged women likewise, that they be in behavior as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, TEACHERS of good things; That THEY MAY TEACH [lead like Miriam] the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient TO THEIR OWN [not someone else’s] husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed. —Titus 2:3-5 KJV

For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be ONE FLESH: so then they are NO MORE TWAIN, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. —Mark 10:7-9 KJV


It is however very important for all women “to learn” from the preaching and teaching from the male elders, but “in quietness” as the scriptures teach. If she has the experience or gift to teach, she should exercise it teaching women younger in age, or younger in the faith.

Sabbath Finished, In Process, or Yet to Come?

The Sabbath may very well be the most important doctrine in the Bible since the creation of the world, and certainly after God separated the Hebrew people to himself.

Friends, the REST which the Sabbath represents is the PROMISE of the gospel. In fact, the “gospel is the power God that gets us (through faith) into that place of peace and rest with God.

Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.–Romans 5:1‭-‬2 KJV

This is why Hebrews 4 can say “we who believe HAVE entered God”s rest” 4:3.

At the temptation in the garden of Eden our first parents traded the good/perfect work, (that God allowed them to rest in,) for their own work. The Serpent criticized God’s magnificent creation and paradise, and tricked Eve and her husband into their own plan of creation: “you can be like [better than] God…”

At the Appointed time…:

ALL THINGS are delivered unto me of my Father… Come unto me, all ye that LABOUR and are heavy laden, and I WILL GIVE YOU REST. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and YE SHALL FIND REST unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.–Matthew 11:27‭-‬30 KJV

For we which HAVE BELIEVED DO ENTER INTO REST, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they [the unbelievers] shall [not] enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. [The Serpent lied, we can’t outdo our Creator. After the 6th day God’s glorious work was finished]– Hebrews 4:3 KJV


And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.– Revelation 11:15 KJV

Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you…–John 14:27 KJV



Now faith is the substance [structural foundation] of things hoped for, the [tangible, forensic] evidence of things not seen…Through faith WE UNDERSTAND that the worlds were framed [designed and equipped] by the word of God, so that [this being a fact] things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. –Hebrews 11:1‭, ‬3 KJV

Faith is a faculty. It’s a medium allowing access from one dimension to another. From the natural realm to the spiritual world. From the material world to the world from which matter is planned. From the spoken word of the invisible God, to a life on earth that pleases that God.

Thus, we need faith (the ability to see and understand unseen things) to see the things in God’s domain. Faith is a much higher sensory perception of REALITIES in that higher dimension–it can only be given by God who resides in that realm and governs created things.

And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar–jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. Matthew 16:17 KJV


“But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,  For by GRACE are ye saved THROUGH FAITH; and that NOT OF YOURSELVES: it is the GIFT of God: –Ephesians 2:4‭, ‬8 KJV

Evil men today have created a  FAITH  that originates from fleshly man, allegedly allowing him to access/ATTRACT MATERIAL THINGS TO HIMSELF that he presently doesn’t have. In this false teaching, god is invoked as the agent/servant/genie to retrieve those material things the man wants. Thus THAT FAITH SEEKS TO BRING GOD DOWN to earth, as opposed to TAKING MEN UP INTO heaven.

“Therefore being justified by FAITH, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:  By whom also we have access by faith INTO THIS GRACE wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. –Romans 5:1‭-‬2 KJV

…much more they which receive [take, grasp] abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall [as a result, begin to] REIGN IN LIFE by one, Jesus Christ.) –Romans 5:17 KJV

“For the law of the spirit of life [living by faith] IN CHRIST JESUS hath made me free [delivered me] FROM the law of sin and death. –Romans 8:2 KJV

So what else does this mean? It means that if you are a true believer in the things God has shared with us in his word, you ARE a NEW creation, reborn by God and given eyes (faith) to perceive and understand the invisible dimension of heaven where God the creator and ruler of everything resides. You are functioning in the realm of faith.GOD HAS BROUGHT YOU UP to HEAVEN, (YOU HAVEN’T BROUGHThim DOWN.)

If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.  Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.  For ye are dead, and YOUR LIFE IS hid WITH CHRIST IN GOD. –Colossians 3:1‭-‬3 KJV

Read Hebrews chapter 11 and 12 to confirm this interpretation.

One Man’s Treasure is another man’s Trash Gen. 25

These were days when God spoke directly with men. What Jacob would pass on to his first born son was not something he owned, it was a privilege bestowed by God though the laying on of his hands. It was a privilege/blessing/honor that is transferred to the firstborn. It was privilege, responsibility, and spiritual power.

Had Esau treasured the privilege, we would be knowing the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob Esau.

“And Jacob said, Sell me this day thy birthright.  And Esau said, Behold, I am at the point to die: and what profit shall this birthright do to me?  And Jacob said, Swear to me this day; and he sware unto him: and he sold his birthright unto Jacob.  Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentiles; and he did eat and drink, and rose up, and went his way: thus Esau DESPISED his birthright. –Genesis 25:31‭-‬34 KJV

The word despised is a word that is used when a comparison is made; when a person is at a crossroad and has to make a decision. It is very similar to the word shame; when a person is faced with something Superior or receive to be better then what they now possess in their hand or in their possession. It’s like being a good boxer in a gunfight, you are ashamed or you despise your boxing career because you consider it useless, worthless in this situation.

We are now told by the Spirit of God why that history of Esau and Jacob was recorded, and WHAT IT MEANS TO THE CHILDREN OF GOD.

Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.  For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.  And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children [of God], My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked [disciplined] of him:  For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.  If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?  Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;  Lest there be any fornicator [a man who prostitutes his body to another’s lust for hire,] or profane [unholy] person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright [God given honor and privilege].  For ye know how that afterward, when he would have INHERITED THE BLESSING, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears. [NOW, WHAT YOU STAND TO LOSE!]  For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,  And the sound of a TRUMPET, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard entreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more: But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly [spiritual/eternal] Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,  To the general assembly and church of the firstborn [privileged by birthright], which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,  And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.  See that ye refuse not him that speaketh [This trumpet call]. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:  Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.  And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.  Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: –Hebrews 12:2‭-‬3‭, ‬5‭-‬7‭, ‬15‭-‬18‭, ‬22‭-‬28 KJV

Heb 11:1  Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 6  But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

If we seek comfort and ease in this world and shamefully take off our Christian profession of faith in the Lord Jesus and our faithfulness to him when our comfort is threatened, we are despising a privilege the angels of heaven marvel to behold. WE HAVE TOO MUCH TO LOSE!
(Read all of Hebrews, especially chapters 11 and 12.)

Our example is Jesus (and the great cloud of witnesses in chp. 11) who “despised the shame” of suffering in this world because of faith in God’s promises. Picture this! The world stood by and watched Jesus cling only to faith in his Father, while his enemy had the power of death in his hand. In the world’s eyes Jesus had shamefully brought a butter knife to a nuclear war. Jesus however knew better! “He despised”, not his faith, but the idea of shame in his humiliation.

Note: Immediately after Esau sells his birthright, we see Jacob with that birthright encounter the God of his fathers:

“And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.  And, behold, the Lord stood above it, and said, I am the Lord God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed;  And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.  And, behold, I am with thee, and will keep thee in all places whither thou goest, and will bring thee again into this land; for I will not leave thee, until I have done that which I have spoken to thee of.  And Jacob awaked out of his sleep, and he said, Surely the Lord is in this place; and I knew it not.  And he was afraid, and said, How dreadful is this place! this is none other but the house of God, and this is the gate of heaven.
Genesis 28:12‭-‬17 KJV

“And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.  And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
Genesis 32:28‭, ‬30 KJV

“Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. –1 John 3:2 KJV

There Remains a Rest for The People of God?


For if Jesus [JOSHUA] had given them rest, then would he [God] not afterward have spoken of another day.  There remaineth [is left behind] therefore a rest to the people of God. Hebrews 4:8‭-‬9 KJV

Nearly all false teaching comes from poor translation, failure to check the translation from the original language, and FAILURE TO FOLLOW THE TRAIN OF THOUGHT IN THE CONTEXT.
You can see what I believe is a corrected translation above.

How shall we escape [similar judgment], if we neglect [fail to care for] so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; –Hebrews 2:3 KJV

The Hebrews to whom he was writing were “leaving behind/neglecting” [4:9] the gospel and its REST from works, to return to the Old Covenant–this letter is A WARNING and admonition to them.


“But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.  For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end; –Hebrews 3:6‭, ‬14 KJV

(For we which HAVE BELIEVED DO ENTER INTO REST,] …Hebrews 4:3 KJV

“For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,  And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard entreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:  But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,  To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,  And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.  Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: –Hebrews 12:18‭-‬19‭, ‬22‭-‬24‭, ‬28 KJV

“All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.   Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.   Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.   For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. –Matthew 11:27‭-‬30 KJV

The Great Physician

Natural medicine experts have known for a long time, that a tumor is NOT a disease. It’s a garbage can. The body collects/SEPARATES OUT CANCEROUS CELLS from the rest of the healthy body. They are marked for destruction, so the whole body can live. Those cells have committed treason, or been reprogrammed to work against the body.

God is not like us, he’s completely holy. We allow diseased/harmful people to function in the body–we might call it love and tolerance. (These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead,–Jude 1:12 KJV) Sometime we even fight (like a dog nawing his own leg off) against those who are truthful and faithful. We label them trouble-makers.

God don’t play that: (read the judgments on the Churches in Revelation 2–3.)

Here God sperates cancer from his people and destroys it. We shouldn’t be surprised.

The Lord will not spare him, but then the anger of the Lord and his jealousy shall smoke against that man, and all the curses that are written in this book shall lie upon him, and the Lord shall blot out his name from under heaven.  And THE LORD SHALL SEPARATE HIM UNTO EVIL [like a tumor] out of all the tribes of Israel, according to all the curses of the covenant that are written in this book of the law: –Deu. 29

So don’t be surprised when you see the great (good) physician at work among his people.

Jesus also came as the great surgeon: Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.–Matthew 10:34 KJV

Foreknowledge and Predestination Romans 8:29

Piper’s conclusions are correct! But he’s taken a complex path to get there.
Romans 5:1-11 destroys ANY IDEA THAT GOD SAW MEN’S FAITH and decided to save them. So does Romans 1:18, the gospel is the POWER OF GOD for salvation of men because men CAN’T SAVE THEMSELVES–period!

Now, what does  “God forknew (proginōskō”) mean in Rom. 8:29?

This means absolute knowledge before hand. Knowledge of what? Not the actions of the person. That would be EXPERIENCIAL knowledge/learning. God learns nothing, he knows everything!

You (faith-full) Christian, were COMPLETELY purposed by God–every cell of you–BEFORE the creation of the universe began. Your name was written in his (blueprint)  book of Life. He planned you like a God plans the world.

Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.–Acts 15:18 KJV

You are one of his works!

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.–Ephesians 2:10 KJV

Read the rest of what he planned in your life in the rest of Romans 8.

Put on Jesus!

I know what you’re thinking, “I’m wearing Gucci, the Kardashian’s latest, Warriors Jersey, and Rolls Royce…

Ahh! but this is different! Jesus Christ is human perfection; the epitome of who we are meant to be as sons of Adam. You put him on from the INSIDE.

We find ourselves soo inadequate, (and this is true,) that we need to cloth ourselves with some status symbol to elevate our self esteem and projected image. This is a consciousness of sin/imperfection. This is the REAL world friends

Listen to Danny sing about everlasting clothes.

“In him was life; and the life was the light of men… But as many as received him, to them gave he POWER TO BECOME the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
John 1:4‭, ‬12 KJV

“But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof. –Romans 13:14 KJV

Study in the book of Job: Who are You?

Who is Job that God Almighty (the Logos, Creator) should speak with him face to face? How could he possible comprehend what the Almighty will tell him?

“Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind [hurricane], and said, Who is this [Job’s friends] that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge? GIRD UP NOW thy loins LIKE A MAN [Job]; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me. Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. –Job 38:1‭-‬4 KJV

REMEMBER, In all this Job sinned not, nor charged God foolishly. —Job 1:22 (the same cannot be said for his friends. v42:7)

So, the One who “made man in his image and likeness” shows up (after friends failed to speak accurately of Him, his ways, motives and intentions during Jobs trial) to MAKE A MAN INDEED OUT OF JOB, or perhaps let him KNOW who he is.

“Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things w hishich we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip. But one in a certain place testified, saying, WHAT IS MAN, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him? Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou CROWNEDST HIM WITH GLORY AND HONOUR, and didst SET HIM OVER the works of thy hands… —Hebrews 2:1‭, ‬6‭-‬7 KJV

WHO ARE YOU in this world?

GIRD UP NOW thy loins LIKE A MAN and he may show you…

Job sinned not


Sn is a contamination, a mutation, a deletion, to be less than perfect.
There are two critical responses for Christians when things go wrong:

  1.  Out right sin. Take things into your own hands and choose a contrary resolution to hopeful relieve pain or discomfort.
  2. Charge God foolishly, as though you are wiser and more knowledgeable and loving than him, leaving the position of a created thing and sitting yourself on the throne as a god. (“If I were God I’d do it this way. So…)

THE FIRST is sinful, disobedient actions. THE SECOND is sinful, disrespectful thoughts, ideas, and words, which will produce actions.

The book of Job is all about how men react to God in this FALLEN, broken world that is full of trials, heart ache, and difficulties. (The idea of any “paradise on earth” is a lie. When we believe this lie, the Devil directs our path to find it among this worlds fleeting pleasures.

Watch Job stay close to God while his world collapses!)

When you are told that any action which relieves real or perceived pain is THE RIGHT action (even if it is contrary to scripture), you are being led away from God–proceed at your own peril. According to the modern co-dependency camp, any action which brings immediate “peace” is good, no matter who else is offended by it.

In this case the offended one would have been God had Job sinned with his actions, thoughts, or words. Had he lived today and visited the average counselor, they would have encouraged him (as his wife did)  to “curse God”, get if off your chest.